It’s at the point now where, for the first time in my life I’m really fully able to support myself as a musician.

Zs just released a new EP, Grain. I listened to it, it’s really awesome. Do you have any other releases planned?

Well, Zs is recording the next record pretty soon, and I think the idea is that it’ll come out late 2013, early 2014. I have a solo tape coming out on NNA in April. The new Guardian record is going to come out in November. The stuff that I’ve been working on with Ben, I don’t really know when that’s going to come out, but it’ll probably be also late 2013 at the earliest. And then there’s other projects that might happen that I don’t really know about yet.

I’m really stoked about it. I’ve kind of been wanting this for a long time. You know, for a while I was holding down part-time jobs and stuff in New York City and just doing what I had to do when I wasn’t on tour. And it was the kind of situation where I was touring a lot but it wasn’t enough that I could really support myself off of it, and so I was constantly in jeopardy of losing the job that I had or something like that, but the jobs weren’t something I really wanted to do anyway. So I got kind of lucky in that I got fired from this one—for three years I was working as a sound guy at this sort of diplomatic place in New York—and they fired me after three years. Then that two weeks later, I got a phone call from Ben asking if I wanted to do the band and do more recording with him, so it kind of just like happened at the right time. Then came joining Zs and going on tour with Zs. It’s at the point now where, for the first time in my life I’m really fully able to—I mean, in a very meager way—support myself as a musician. I mean, I have debt and all kinds of shit, but I’m on tour consistently enough and my rent is cheap enough and my expenses are low enough that I can—now, because of how I can project in the future the amount of touring that I’m going to be doing, I don’t know how much money I have coming in, but I know I have money.

Well, I’m just wondering, so do you think the big break came with Liturgy or was it when you started doing your own stuff more?

I got a lot of attention for my drumming with Liturgy and we did a lot of touring, and the record did well. I get listed as “ex-Liturgy drummer” all the time. So I know that record had a lot of reach, and I know that a lot of people know of my drumming because of that. But, I don’t know, it didn’t feel like a break or anything like that. When I was in Teeth Mountain, Teeth Mountain was having a relative amount of success, we were touring Europe. And then when I was playing drums with Dan Deacon, it felt like that was successful for me. It’s just been this progression of just it becoming more and more of a reality, that this is just what I’m actually doing, and less a question of “what am I doing?” But now, it’s like now I know what I’m doing. Yeah, I think that Liturgy definitely, for a lot of people, was the way they became aware of my music, but I would say for the most part, the majority of people are definitely not aware of any of my music.

I’m actually kind of curious how you’ve gotten involved with Zs? I don’t know if you knew all those guys before you got involved with the band or how you met up with them?

Well, [ex-Zs guitarist] Ben [Greenberg] actually is sort of a childhood friend. I’ve known Ben since we went to neighboring high schools. I’ve known him since like seventh or eighth grade. And he used to be in a band with some of my friends from my school, and so we would go see them play. And he was really a shredder back then. So Ben and I have been friends for a long time, and we’ve done some playing together. Ben and I were in a band together for a little while, like sort of between my getting out of high school and going to college in New York.

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